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	<title>Comments on: 9pm rule &#8211; week 2</title>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea - the 9pm rule worked pretty well for a few months, and helped me sleep better, but then I stopped blogging because I used to do that in the evening... after 9 pm.  Just read an article that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090608071941.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Television Watching Before Bedtime Can Lead To Sleep Debt&lt;/a&gt;, so I guess it wasn&#039;t just me!

I believe Prof. Rao&#039;s point is that your actions follow your beliefs.  If you try to change your actions without addressing your beliefs, then ultimately you return to where you were before (because you&#039;re trying to be something else)... but when you change your beliefs, your actions change automatically.

It&#039;s a good point about addressing the underlying stress that was there in the first place, as opposed to trying to construct a rule to make the problem easier to tolerate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea &#8211; the 9pm rule worked pretty well for a few months, and helped me sleep better, but then I stopped blogging because I used to do that in the evening&#8230; after 9 pm.  Just read an article that <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090608071941.htm" rel="nofollow">Television Watching Before Bedtime Can Lead To Sleep Debt</a>, so I guess it wasn&#8217;t just me!</p>
<p>I believe Prof. Rao&#8217;s point is that your actions follow your beliefs.  If you try to change your actions without addressing your beliefs, then ultimately you return to where you were before (because you&#8217;re trying to be something else)&#8230; but when you change your beliefs, your actions change automatically.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good point about addressing the underlying stress that was there in the first place, as opposed to trying to construct a rule to make the problem easier to tolerate.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adam

I love idea of the 9pm rule! After the MBA I think I&#039;ll give a variant of that a go, although I fully take-on board your thoughts about how this fits in with a CPM approach.

Interesting to think of forcing change on oneself as &#039;doing harm to oneself&#039;. Many of the CPM exercises increase awareness of parts of oneself that one might like to change - how should one go about implementing those changes?

By investing in the process, not the outcome, I presume it IS okay to focus on the PROCESS of change, so long as one doesn&#039;t invest in the outcome)? If so, is the change really &#039;doing harm to oneself&#039;? Choosing to walk a different journey, to flow outside the grand-canyon of our a habits, is (for me at least) one of the points of CPM. I&#039;m not sure where it will lead, and I&#039;m not &#039;forcing&#039; a direction, so hopefully this is not &#039;doing harm&#039; to myself.

From one possible point of view - Ensuring you have your laptop turned off by 9pm is possibly a goal you are investing in and forcing on yourself (&#039;doing harm&#039;). You say this helps releive stress and the pressure to get things done - perhaps it is the pressure itself (why do you feel the pressure to get stuff done?) that needs to be tackled rather than the outcome (ie without the rule you&#039;d be on the laptop all evening)? ... Just one possible point of view.

I&#039;ll have a think about how I might factor something like this in to my life... Perhaps we can discuss a suitable approach over coffee over one of the next couple of weekends?

Cheers,
  Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam</p>
<p>I love idea of the 9pm rule! After the MBA I think I&#8217;ll give a variant of that a go, although I fully take-on board your thoughts about how this fits in with a CPM approach.</p>
<p>Interesting to think of forcing change on oneself as &#8216;doing harm to oneself&#8217;. Many of the CPM exercises increase awareness of parts of oneself that one might like to change &#8211; how should one go about implementing those changes?</p>
<p>By investing in the process, not the outcome, I presume it IS okay to focus on the PROCESS of change, so long as one doesn&#8217;t invest in the outcome)? If so, is the change really &#8216;doing harm to oneself&#8217;? Choosing to walk a different journey, to flow outside the grand-canyon of our a habits, is (for me at least) one of the points of CPM. I&#8217;m not sure where it will lead, and I&#8217;m not &#8216;forcing&#8217; a direction, so hopefully this is not &#8216;doing harm&#8217; to myself.</p>
<p>From one possible point of view &#8211; Ensuring you have your laptop turned off by 9pm is possibly a goal you are investing in and forcing on yourself (&#8216;doing harm&#8217;). You say this helps releive stress and the pressure to get things done &#8211; perhaps it is the pressure itself (why do you feel the pressure to get stuff done?) that needs to be tackled rather than the outcome (ie without the rule you&#8217;d be on the laptop all evening)? &#8230; Just one possible point of view.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have a think about how I might factor something like this in to my life&#8230; Perhaps we can discuss a suitable approach over coffee over one of the next couple of weekends?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
  Dan</p>
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